Fourteen Years Earlier…


…terrorists flew four planes into three buildings and a field, killing almost 3,000 people.  A terrible tragedy that provided a wakeup call to the country that there is a movement in the world that will do everything in its power to destroy this country and it’s people.

Shortly after these attacks, President George Bush spoke to the American people and made these remarks during that speech:

“…Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen…

“…the only way to defeat terrorism as a threat to our way of life is to stop it, eliminate it, and destroy it where it grows.”

It seems that the leadership of this country has learned nothing in the intervening years, instead negotiating with a country that sponsors terrorism across the world and calls for the downfall of this country even during negotiations.  We have also seen an increase in terrorism around the world, and atrocities committed by an Islamic group which goes out of it’s way to publicize executions of Christians and non-believers on social media.  Our leaders response is to yawn and have nothing else to say while giving token support to our allies in the region.

Both Iran and ISIS state that they will not stop until the infidel nations are conquered and their people subjugated or executed.  They call for all Muslims to rise up worldwide to cause havoc and mayhem in the name of their prophet.  The Administration’s response is that we need to sit down, talk with them, and help them understand that their actions are not acceptable.

What?

“Whether we like it or not, I believe that the Islamic terrorists are going to do their damnest to make this into a religious war from whatever it can be called now. They will use the classic good vs. evil argument, an us-vs.-them conflict in the name of a jihad (religious war, for those of you in Rio Linda). They will plot, plan, and execute attacks that will cause large numbers of casualties. And the elitist idiots among us will wring their hands crying, “We don’t understand! We were talking!” Understand this, you Brie-eaters – there are people in the world that want to kill you just for the reason that you exist!! And we still seem to pursue the idiotic mantra of appeasement to those who wish nothing more than to destroy our country and subjugate us to their religion.” – Tom Roland, 2006

Lest we forget –

“If you are unwilling to defend even your own lives, then you are like mice trying to ‘negotiate’ with owls.  You regard their ways as ‘wrong’, they regard you as dinner. – John Farnam

Our government is “negotiating” a deal with Iran to not develop nuclear weapons.  The agreement is fundamentally flawed, giving Iran everything possible to develop those weapons – unfreezing bank accounts (which will go toward funding terrorism and weapons development), a laughable inspection program, and no real consequences.  And somehow, this “deal” is being hailed as a landmark negotiation to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of a state that sponsors terrorism across the planet.

I remember this history lesson from High School (back when schools actually taught something beside social justice and hand holding):

“The Imam and his soldiers would ride into the village and after all resistance had been eliminated, the villagers would be herded into the town square.  The surviving village elders would then be singled out and then told that they and their people would submit and convert to Islam.  They would approach the first elder, and if he refused, would then be beheaded.  And down the line they went until the surviving elder would command the villagers to convert.  It usually didn’t take that many elders getting their heads cut off before Islam added another village to their fold.

“The lesson was simple:  Infidels will convert to Islam or die. Islam requires the faithful to spread their faith, with violence if necessary, and to show no mercy.  And by the way, the Koran commands such actions.” – Tom Roland, 2014 

The Administration’s actions are a recipe for disaster, a step toward capitulation.  If our government so fears the Islamic terrorists, then…

“..we might as well just give up & pledge allegiance to Allah, put the women in burkas, scrap the Constitution & Bill of Rights, and put all of the “undesirables” according to Islamic law (such as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, atheists, homosexuals, Feminists, free-thinkers & other non-Islamics) to death.” – Tom Roland, 2006

And I wonder who is truly insane – our inept Administration or the terrorists that want to destroy the world in order to make it into their version of Heaven?  The Administration has forgotten:

“The American people are now at war, not with a nation, but with an ideology that hates this country and all of it’s citizens. These people live, think, sleep, and eat with the thought of killing us and destroying this country that we live in simply because they do not like us for the freedoms we enjoy (especially the one about freedom to worship). And their reward for doing so is their version of heaven. And knowing all of this, there are those who still believe that these fanatics can be negotiated with.” – Tom Roland, 2006

Our country has been effectively neutered with this Administration and its sycophants in the media, and that puts all of us, including our allies, in grave danger

“We must rid ourselves of the foolish notion that we’re being broadminded when we ignore vitriolic loathing of our culture and our lifestyle. Refusing to take action against evil for fear of being guilty of stereotyping has resulted in flag-draped coffins for thirteen of America’s finest. What occurred at Fort Hood is even more stunning because it exposes a weak-willed mentality that has become woven into the fabric of the mightiest military force in the history of the world.

“When we think of political correctness, we usually view it as confined to the Hollywood crowd and other assorted leftists. The fact that it has invaded the ranks of those who defend our freedom, here and around the world, is more than a bit alarming. We must not let the death of those soldiers count for nothing! If this unspeakable horror invokes a new paradigm in our approach to the enemies within, those who lost their lives will rest in peace, knowing that their sacrifice has taught us a lesson that will save countless other lives in the future. On the other hand, if we don’t view this as a wake-up call and take appropriate action, the date of our destruction can’t be far off.” – Bob Wier, American Thinker

Like Rome, Troy, and countless other civilizations and cities, we are being destroyed from within.  Our Administration is doing a bang up job not only domestically, but internationally as well.

While we remember the fallen on this day, we also need to pray for the country, our government, and our People, for we all need it.  Otherwise, we are doomed.

About Tom Roland

EE for 25 Years, Two Patents - now a certified PMP. Married twice, burned once. One son with Asperger's Syndrome. Two cats. Conservative leaning to the Right. NRA Life Member.
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8 Responses to Fourteen Years Earlier…

  1. socialinform says:

    May all the victims rest in peace. Take a look at the first article here: http://theotheriran.com/category/usa/ , it is about 9/11 and cites “New York Times”, “The New Yorker”, “BBC”, “Chicago Tribune”, “Christian Science Monitor”, …

  2. Tom Roland says:

    Interesting articles. However, when the Iranian government leaders state “Death to the United States”, “Death to Israel”, and make other threats to the Western world, it means that these articles only reflect a small portion of the population. Also, remember that the statements of the officials in these articles were made when sanctions were in force on Iran, so the question begs to be asked – Where these statements made because of the sanctions, or because that was the sentiment of the officials? With the recent statements of these same officials as noted above, it makes me think it was the former.

  3. socialinform says:

    Dear Tom,
    you say because the leaders of a country say “Death to America”, other opinions only reflect a “small portion” of that country.
    Well Obama is saying that the Nuclear Deal is a good thing, does that mean that only a small portion of the US Americans has a different opinion??
    No?? Then may be your analog conclusion about Iranians is also wrong. Furthermore which leader in Iran is saying Death to America? The elected administration or the unelected leader?
    Look most of the elected administration has lived and studied in the USA: http://theotheriran.com/2014/10/19/irans-president-has-more-cabinet-members-with-ph-d-degrees-from-u-s-universities-than-barack-obama-does/
    Their kids even grew up in the US, and non of them has said “Death to America”.

    So do you now think that the unelected leader represents the whole country, whereas every one else is only a “small portion of the population”? Why does the unelected leader not give us a possibility to elect him? Because he knows that his chances to win would be very small.
    Obama was really elected by the US population, the leader was never elected. Do you really still think he represents the majority of Iran? I hope you revise your opinion.

    Now to another topic
    About your theory with the sanctions:
    Look you can always find an explanation that fits into your understanding of the world. You see something that is against everything you expected from some remote people that you don’t know much about, but instead of being open to the possibility that you might have a wrong view, you try to find an explanation to fit everything in your view. Still in 2001 when 9/11 happened, Iran was swimming in oil money, the sanctions had almost no effect on Iran. So nope that was not the reason. Also no one is as dumb in Iran to think that showing sympathy would remove US sanctions.
    Also the articles were not only about 9/11 if you scrolled down you would see that US travelers were writing about their experience with Iranians, same with other travelers. So it was about usual Iranians and not statements of politicians.

    “Death to America” statements are shouted by a tiny minority in Iran, and believe me you don’t see what we Iranians have to hear from your side. This is what we have to hear from US politicians (not just regular people):
    – “Bomb, bomb, bomb, … bomb Iran”
    – “The military option is on the table”

    These words coming from politicians of a super power who has brought death and chaos to many of our neighbor countries is much scarier. No other country in the world has initiated as many wars as the US, but I guess you have a justification for every war: all were preventive, for a good cause, …
    But look, this is like Football, if there is injustice or bad luck against your team, you get really angry, but if it is against the other team you do not even notice injustice or bad luck. You brain just acts selective.

    As a last thing:
    Look we don’t have to believe our media or politicians about the USA or Americans. We understand English, we watch your sat TV. We cheer your sports team (like the US Dream Team), we know your actors, we watch Hollywood movies. We have our own actually quite positive view on the people of the United States of America. We don’t like your foreign policy however, but we can distinguish between people and politics, because we don’t like our leader and his foreign politics as well.
    Now we know about your realities partly through your own media, but you know only what your media tells you about us. You cannot read or understand our language, so you have no chance to learn something about Iran other than what your media decides what should be presented to you.
    It is as if we would think all US Americans would sing “bomb, bomb, …”. But is it like this? Of course not! Same with “Death to America”

    Big parts of your political establishment and media tries to whitewash everything Saudi Arabia does (9/11, Al Qaida, IS, …), but spend crazy amounts of time painting a black-only picture of Iran, without providing a balanced view to you.

    Now your only chance to independently get some knowledge about Iran is to travel there, but this is of course a lot to ask, but I provide you here a quicker and cheaper way to ask yourself if Iran is really like what you thought, or if a lot of things are actually different than what US media has shown in the last 35 years:

    Just browse through several photos. At the end a photo tells more about the truth that 1000 words.

    Let’s start with how the country looks like:
    Did you think Iran just looks like Iraq? Everything is the same down there? All desert?
    http://theotheriran.com/tag/nature/

    All women were Burqas, and the country is deep religious? Radical Islam at its worst, women cannot achieve anything?
    http://theotheriran.com/tag/women/

    Minorities live in fear, have to hide themselves, are hated by the majority?
    http://theotheriran.com/tag/minorities/

    Only dry:
    http://theotheriran.com/tag/snow/

    Iran seems to be a lot different than what you generally thought, right?
    So how is it that Iran is constantly in your free media, but that free media never dared to show a different side of Iran?

    BTW all the things I mentioned above what you could think of Iran (dry desert, burqas and minorities living under constant threat) is true for Saudi Arabia. The biggest partner of the US in the Persian Gulf, and a country that is never criticized by US politicians that usually are very good at finger pointing when it comes to Iran. So why do they close their eyes to the crimes of Saudi Arabia? Because they are hypocrites? Because they want to fool you?

    Again take the chance with my links, challenge your knowledge and build up your own independent view. After all you are living in a democracy with free press and access to the internet, why shouldn’t you do some research outside of the known paths? I and most other Iranians are not in such a privileged situation, we are living under a dictatorship, with no free press, but with Sat TV and Internet, and we do research outside of the known paths.

    Have a good day,
    Amir

  4. Tom Roland says:

    Amir,

    Thank you for the links and your lengthy response. It truly does help to see opinions and views from other perspectives.

    Please note that I do not have problems with the Iranian people. I have had Iranian classmates at both High School and collegiate levels, and have worked with Iranians on a professional level. I have no doubts from your response that there are Iranians who desire nothing but peace, mourned with us on 9/11, and abhor their government’s posturing and actions. I could be wrong on their numbers, and can only take your word that there are more than I am presuming.

    Where I have problems is with the Iranian government that is in power and the policies that they implement. Again, when the Iranian leadership makes threats against the United States and allies while pursuing a nuclear weapon & weapon systems that will deliver said nuclear weapon, I have very large concerns. The last thing that we all want is for a nuclear weapon to be detonated upon an innocent populace.

    For the record, I was against the invasion of Iraq and actions in Afghanistan. I saw from the initial invasion of Iraq that it would be a long, drawn out conflict that there would be no winners, and that the region would become more chaotic. The United States cannot be beaten in a straight-up military action, but country building takes political will across many different administrations. I can point to the rebuilding of Japan and Germany after World War II for this last, but the record of the United States has been abysmal ever since.

    I am fully aware of the lopsided view that the media shows of the Middle East, and of our own government. They only show what presents what will support their agenda. As you have pointed out, the role that Saudi Arabia has played in the politics and/or terrorism in the Middle East has not been shown in the media or has been minimized. When traveling to Germany several years ago, I had the chance to view news media outlets other than the US, and it was truly eye-opening as to the opinions and views from other countries.

    I am also aware that the governments of both Iran and the United States do not fully consider the will of the people – polls in the United States show the public’s opposition to the nuclear agreement with the Iranian government. Politicians are not listening to their constituents. Politicians are being politicians – well, I don’t trust those people at all. Our President has an agenda, and it’s not for the American people. I suspect that the leadership in Iran is much the same.

    Be well.

  5. Thanks for the great post for the anniversary Tom

  6. socialinform says:

    Hello Tom,

    Thank you for your answer. I want to comment here on one sentence that you wrote:
    “I have no doubts from your response that there are Iranians who desire nothing but peace, mourned with us on 9/11, and abhor their government’s posturing and actions. I could be wrong on their numbers, and can only take your word that there are more than I am presuming.”

    Speaking with people living in democracies, I have often the feeling that a lot of them forget what a democracy is, what the difference with a dictatorship is.

    I think you agree with me that Iran is a dictatorship. The leader cannot be unellected, he stays for his life time (which will fortunately be over soon). But why does this guy not stand for real elections? He could get legitimacy. Why is he not doing it? Because by far the majority of the country would not vote for him. This is the thing with dictatorships they don’t ask to be elected because they are not popular.

    You seem to think that the majority of Iranians are for this regime. How do you come to this conclusion? What data points do you have for this? Can’t you see that your actual knowledge about Iran is quite limited? And it is not your fault: You do not understand Persian, you have never been there, you cannot know more. You experience with Iranians has apparently been quite good, I guess the people you met were quite liberal (open minded and modern) people.
    Most probably much like these: http://iranianroots.com/2014/01/24/mit-iranian-americans-among-most-highly-educated-in-u-s-and-contribute-substantially-to-the-u-s-economy/
    So on which basis do you want to make conclusions about the numbers of peace loving people in Iran? In your first answer you were writing about a “small portion”. Peace and freedom are high values for most people in the world, so why should a majority of Iranians be different?

    Please also take time to look at my posts. Only take a look at the photos? That is already enough to show that Iran is different than what you think.

    Best regards,
    Amir

  7. Tom Roland says:

    Amir,

    You have taken my statement completely out of the context in which it was written, and built a specious argument based upon that thought process. At no time did I state or insinuate that the majority of Iranian people are for the present Iranian government’s actions – that would be presumptuous on my part. I only questioned the actual number of people that “abhor their government’s posturing and actions” and mourned with the United States in their observance of the memory of 9/11 (people holding a candlelight vigil in a soccer stadium in 2001 is impressive, but by no means is it the entire country). People could be neutral on what they think about 9/11 or their government’s actions & positions.

    I fully understand that Iran is under a religious dictatorship. I also understand that public demonstrations that are counter to the government’s position are frowned upon, and this is why I would question the numbers of any public display of support for the United States, especially given the current state of affairs between Iran and the United States.

    I do take great offense at your statement that I “do not understand Persian, you have never been there, you cannot know more” because this insinuates that I would never understand people from other cultures from across this world. I know people from six different contents and have traveled to two others for extended periods of time. I am currently working for and have worked for multi-national companies for many years. In general, Iranians are just like other people that I have met during my life and travels – some are arrogant pricks that I cannot wait to get away from, some have become my dearest friends, most are somewhere in between, and all of them just simply want to live their lives & raise their families.

    What are you trying to convince me of anyway? That the Iranian people are just like everyone else, peaceable, and pro-American? That Iran is a beautiful country with a rich history? Your website seems to support that and more. You are as proud of your country as much as I am of mine. However, what your website does not state is how the Iranian people feel about their government.

    Your challenge is to provide “data points” for how the Iranian people feel about their government. Provide surveys, polls, and other data that supports your points. It’s your job to convince me how the Iranian people of how they feel about their government’s positions and actions.

  8. socialinform says:

    Dear Tom,

    sorry that you took offense on that statement. That was not my intention. I really wanted to say that it is not your fault (This is also how I begin that sentence). I truly think that we have an advantage in understanding you, because we can understand English and thus consume your media. I really would wish that Americans could do the same, then there would be less misunderstandings.
    BTW my website is on purpose non political. This is for multiple reasons: There are enough political websites/news about Iran. With my website I want to show something new, and also reach all parties in Iran, also the minority which is loyal to the regime.
    I cannot state how Iranian people feel about their government, to be more precise the regime (leader + Iran’s conservatives) not the administration (reformers in which many people have a lot of hope). I can also not provide data points in form of surveys or polls. Why not? Again, because Iran is a dictatorship: There will unfortunately be never polls about how happy people are about the regime, and people would also have not the courage to state their real opinion.
    One data point that I can give you is this: Around 10% of Iranians have left the country (mostly to US, Canada and Europe). Much more would leave the country if they would have the money. This is a good indicator how people feel about the regime.
    The other number that I gave you were 2 million peaceful protesters in the capital city during the green wave. People must be very much against the regime if they dare to risk their lives to protest against the regime. In reality much more people sympathized with those 2 million and hid them when they fled the police, but had not enough courage to go to the streets themselves.
    I am part of those who did not have the courage, because I thought if they beat me up I cannot take care of my family.

    Beat regards,
    Amir

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