American Civil Liberties Union, et al, at it again…..


But the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for Separation of Church and State are standing by their victory in a U.S. circuit court decision that states even “a solitary reference to Jesus Christ” in invocations before the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners’ meetings could do “violence to the pluralistic and inclusive values that are a defining feature of American public life.”
-World Net Daily-

It seems that no matter how many times these idiotic organizations are told they keep coming up with their idiotic ways to control us. First off, AGAIN, Separation of church and state is NOT, and I repeat, NOT in the Constitution! That being said, here is what is going on now. From the World Net Daily, on October 28, 2011:

FAITH UNDER FIRE
Jesus’ name ruled ‘unconstitutional’
Judge says prayers to Christ ‘do violence to America’s pluralistic, inclusive values’

Posted: October 28, 2011
9:35 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2011

A board of county commissioners in North Carolina is asking the Supreme Court for help: Its members don’t believe they should have to forbid volunteers from mentioning the name of Jesus in prayers offered before their meetings.

But the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for Separation of Church and State are standing by their victory in a U.S. circuit court decision that states even “a solitary reference to Jesus Christ” in invocations before the Forsyth County Board of Commissioners’ meetings could do “violence to the pluralistic and inclusive values that are a defining feature of American public life.”

Furthermore, wrote Judge James Harvie Wilkinson III in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals majority opinion, legislative invocations offered in Jesus’ name are inherently “sectarian” and thus should be censored lest they make some attendees feel “uncomfortable, unwelcome and unwilling to participate in … public affairs.”

But the board disagrees, and with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund is asking the Supreme Court to trump Wilkinson’s ruling.

“America’s founders opened public meetings with prayer; this county simply wants to allow its citizens to do the same,” said ADF Senior Counsel David Cortman in a statement. “We trust the U.S. Supreme Court will want to review this case because of the long history in America of offering prayers before public meetings. Public officials shouldn’t be coerced into censoring the prayers of those invited to offer them just because secularist groups don’t like people praying according to their own conscience.”

All you have to do, is read actual history books on the United States and you will see that the last paragraph I reprinted above is true. The founding fathers of this nation did include our Heavenly Father in almost everything they did when forming our great nation. That is one of the things that helped make America grow and be great. And the world would be a much different and harder place to live in if it wasn’t for America.

But the jokers at the ACLU and the AUSCS cannot seem to grasp this concept because they want things their way. They want to be able to control our very lives and make sure that we do not have any freedoms that they don’t deem acceptable……no matter what we feel about it.

If you remember your history, there was a time when Christians were persecuted for their beliefs and killed. They were not allowed to worship Christ or God because the powers that be deemed that was destructive to their way of life. So anyone caught praying to Jesus or God was summarily gotten rid of. That time is being brought to bear here in the United States, by these groups that say we do not have the right to worship as we please…..that is unless you are not Christian.

That is what groups like the ACLU and others are after folks, and if we do not stop to look at what they are doing and stop it, we are in for another time that marked the crusades, cause sooner or later the people will rise up. It would be better if it was sooner.

Mark my words here people, not only is Conservatism under attack by the left and their organizations, but Christianity is too. And if we do not wake up to this fact, both factions of our lives will disappear, as will our freedom to practice them.

There will come a time, if we don’t take action, that our freedoms to act, live, worship and own will be a time of the past. America and her Constitution is at risk here. It’s time we stopped this forward progression of Socialism and the left.Right now, this may be only in Forsyth County, North Carolina, but if it’s not stopped, it will spread throughout these United States of America. The only “defining feature of American life” that the ACLU wants to save, is it’s own.

May God Bless our efforts to help get America back, and put God back into our country
God Bless America, Bless all Americans, and bless us to start using more common sense.

-Robert-

About Robert P. Garding

I am a Reagan Conservative, who is very alarmed at the Liberals who have just lost their majority over our government, but continue to act like it never happened. They have to be stopped. NOW or even sooner.
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3 Responses to American Civil Liberties Union, et al, at it again…..

  1. Seane-Anna says:

    Great post, Robert! Groups like the ACLU and AUSCS consider the Establishment Clause to be a license to censor Christian speech in the public square, and they expect the public to believe that said censorship guarantees religious freedom. How Orwellian is that?

    Rulings like the one discussed in your post, Robert, have NOTHING to do with the Constitution. It’s revealing that Judge Wilkinson defended his court’s ruling not as a way to protect the Establishment Clause but as a way to protect people from feeling “uncomfortable [or] unwelcome” in the public square. So, in the liberal mind, non-Christians’ potentially hurt feelings are reason enough to suspend the constitutional freedoms of religion, expression, and conscience. And notice that it’s only non-Christians’ feelings that matter. Neither the ACLU, AUSCS, nor the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals seemed concerned that Christians’ feelings might be hurt by turning the name of Jesus into a virtual obscenity. But that’s how liberals view the name of Jesus, as obscene. They’d never say that the public mentioning of the name Mohammed or Allah did violence to pluralism or inclusiveness. And, of course, they’ve been deafeningly silent on efforts by Muslims to insinuate Sharia law into American jurisprudence. Why no shrill denunciations of that in the name of separation of church and state?

    Christianity is under attack in America. Efforts to silence any mentioning of Jesus’ name in public and to criminalize any public display of the Christian faith are not done out of commitment to the Constitution but out of rank anti-Christian bigotry. We’ve got to call this bigotry out for what it is. We’ve got to stop being terrified of the ugly names, like intolerant or fanatic, liberals use to intimidate us into silence. True freedom is at stake and will disappear if we Christian patriots don’t speak up in defense of the Republic we created. It’s time to stop the Nero wannabes, and with God’s help we will. God bless America and her Christian patriots!
    reply from Robert: I couldn’t have said this any better my friend. Thanks for the insight.

  2. tapline says:

    Robert, Christianity is being attacked daily by liberals and the judiciary. They will not see that this nation is based on Judeo-Christian principals and morality. The writings of our forefathers are riddled with biblical quotes and teachings. This politically correct crap has gone too far. It is destroying this nation..Maybe that is the intent. They certainly are doing a great job. It won’t end until the christian community rises up and says enough is enough….When that will happen,,,,God knows..I think that this whole controversy is anti-American……..stay well….
    reply from Robert: I totally agree with you. It won’t end until the Christian community rises up and says enough is enough…..the trouble is, it won’t start from Washington. It’s going to have to start with us…..and unfortunately, end with us too. That is where this politically correct crap is going to stop. With WE THE PEOPLE.

  3. David says:

    “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.

    All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to to speak of and act on their belief.

    At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral.”. –Ronald Reagan. The idea is in the Constitution. The intent is found in the writings of many Founding Fathers. Yet even without those supports for separation, religious neutrality is still a good idea. After all, the Founding Fathers did not give women the right to vote and saw slaves as only 3/5 of a whole person … We don’t praise these ideas and hold them to be sacred. Nor should we praise theocracy or the establishment of a religion. Pray according to Jesus’ guidelines, not in public but on your own time and in private. Matthew 6:5-7.
    reply from Seane Anna the Free Exercise clause doesn’t limit religious freedom to the private sphere. It applies to individuals NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE. Individuals are NOT government, therefore, an individual praying in the name of Jesus on public property isn’t establishing and can’t establish religion. If you take the position that any and every public place or space is off limits to religious expression, then people who live in public housing shouldn’t be allowed to pray or read the Bible in their homes because that would be an establishment of religion. Of course, that’s ridiculous, and the notion that an individual can establish religion simply by saying or doing something religious on public property is ridiculous.

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