Jinno, Jinno, Jinno! What can I say? When I read your response to my comment on Robert’s “The Responsible Thing Is NOT Censorship!” post I was dumbfounded. I couldn’t believe what I had read. The contradictions, the double standards, and the historical ignorance were astounding. And the most amazing thing was how oblivious you were to it all, child.
Actually Jinno, I’m glad you wrote what you did. Now I know what’s really driving “anti-war” liberals such as yourself (I know, you consider yourself a libertarian not a liberal, but I say if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck then it probably is a duck, and you, Jinno, are a duck). You war critics aren’t concerned at all with the well being of the Iraqi people, the lives of American soldiers, or even wanting real peace. No, what’s driving you is your belief that Americans brought 9/11 on ourselves, that we deserved it because we–gasp!–angered Muslims. Damn us! That explains why the “anti-war” crowd NEVER marches against Islamic terrorism, NEVER mourns its victims, and NEVER demands that Islamic killers lay down their arms. Oh no. To do that would continue the “warmongering” act of insulting Muslims, and we just can’t have that!
I’m glad you made that plain, Jinno. And I’m glad to see you committed to this belief even to the point of abandoning your principles and ideals to support it. What principles and ideals have you abandoned, you ask? How about your favorite one: Tolerance for homosexuality. You’ve expressed your supposedly firm commitment to that ideal in previous comments on this blog. Yet you happily tolerate Muslims “…being a little less lenient on [homosexuality]” because “[t]hat’s their belief system”. Oh well, since it’s their belief system we HAVE to accept it, embrace it even. Not to do so, would be racist and intolerant towards Islam and that must be avoided at all costs!
Yes Jinno, you worship at the altar of tolerating Islam. There’s no democratic value you aren’t willing to suspend in the name of peace through not angering Muslims. Take freedom of speech, for example. In my comments to the above named post I mentioned the Muslim riots and killings that broke out after a Danish newspaper published unflattering cartoons of Muhammad. You justified the riots by saying that “[Muslims’] religion states that Muhammad is not to be depicted in any form…”, as if that should’ve mattered to a NON-MUSLIM people such as the Danes. Hello! We are in the Western world, Jinno, and Muslim standards DO NOT APPLY!!!
I’m appalled by the hypocrisy of liberals like you who constantly chant “Separation of church and state!” which is not what the founding fathers had in mind, yet advocate that Islamic religious doctrine should be the guiding force in NON-MUSLIM, WESTERN countries because anything less might offend Muslims and GOD FORBID MUSLIMS SHOULD BE OFFENDED!!!
But being the liberal that you are Jinno, your anti-religious impulse can’t be denied. While Islam is off limits for denunciation, Christianity is fair game. You give Islam a pass for violating your liberal values but you don’t hesitate to condemn Christians who do the exact same thing. In your comment you gleefully pointed out that Keith Ellison, the lone Muslim in the Senate, “…hasn’t spoken out against [gay] marriage, religious freedom, or women’s rights” while certain conservative Christians in Congress “…can’t…seem to nail down the concept of our Constitution, much less the ideals of religious freedom and tolerance of [gay] relationships.”
Ahhh! Now we know who the REAL problem religionists are: Christians! Damn Bible thumping bigots! They get no slack from you, Jinno. No rationalizing that disapproving of homosexuality is just their belief system. In your book it’s ok to hate (as you would call it) gays, only if you’re Muslim. Christians have no permission to disagree with your opinions. If only they had convinced you liberals that insulting them was a threat to world peace! The Muslims beat the Christians to that punch, alas.
But even that wasn’t the worst….. As bad as your groveling before Muslims is; as bad as your double standard in judging Christians and Muslims is, the worst thing you did Jinno, was repeating, without any critical thought, the ginormous lie that Israel, and our support of her, is THE reason for Muslim anger and violence against America and the West. This revealed your historical ignorance in all its, uh, glory.
You were quite adamant in your belief in this lie, Jinno. I think I know why; it’s the crown jewel in the terrorism-is-America’s-fault doctrine. The doctrine can’t be sustained without THE LIE. Well fasten you seat belt Jinno, ’cause I’m gonna knock that lie right outta the frickin’ ball park!
You wrote the we “…kicked [the Muslims] out of their Holy Land” and therefore Islamic terrorism is just Muslims “defending their property, a Holy Land of their religion.” THEIR Holy Land? I don’t think so!!
Jinno, Israel is the Jew’s Holy Land, NOT the Muslims!! Even Christians’ claim to the Holy Land is overruled by the claim of the Jews. Israel and the rest of the Middle East didn’t become “Muslim land” until 600+ years after Christ, and then only by conquest and, over time, coerced conversion of its population to Islam. That was the beginning of the Muslim Holy Land you’re so keen to protect, Jinno. And here’s some more history you won’t get from your Marxist professor.
The only people to create an independent state in “Palestine” were the Jews. The Muslims NEVER did. From the time of King David, Israel has been the religious, cultural, and national heart of the Jewish people, and Jerusalem has been her capital. Solomon, David’s son, built the First Temple on what is now the Temple Mount in approximately 960 BC. The Second Temple, begun after the Jews returned from their Babylonian Exile, was completed in 515 BC. The Muslims didn’t build their “holy” Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount until 691 AD, more than 1000 years later. Though sometimes occupied by foreign powers, the Jewish nation of Israel continued until the tragic end of the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans in 135 AD. Then Roman Emperor Hadrian expelled the Jews from Jesusalem and renamed their country “Palestine” in an attempt to blot out all memory of their national existence. Liberals like you Jinno, and your Muslim allies are continuing Hadrian’s mission with a vengeance, but you will fail. No amount of historical revision will eradicate the Jews’ right to “Palestine”. And now they have restored their nation in their homeland once again.
But even if “Palestine” was the Muslims’ Holy Land Israel’s existence there would neither explain nor justify Islamic terrorism. The truth, Jinno, is that Muslims have been attacking non-Muslims without provocation since the beginning of their faith. They first attacked the West about 10 years after Muhammad’s death in 632(?) AD, unsuccessfully besieging Constantinople, capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, aka Byzantium. In case you were wondering Jinno, there was no Palestinian-Israeli conflict, with the Byzantines supporting Israel, then.
Undeterred by their failure to take the Byzantine capital, the Muslims kept attacking Christendom. They invaded Sicily in 652 AD, Spain in 711 AD, Constantinople (again) in 717 AD, and France in 720 AD. By 730 AD Islamic forces were poised to take all of Europe but were stopped by Charles Martel, the Hammer of the Franks and grandfather of Charlemagne, at the Battle of Tours in 732 AD. Notice once again, Jinno, that there was no Palestinian-Israeli conflict, no American troops in Saudi Arabia, and no Iraq War going on at the time of these invasions. In short, the West hadn’t angered the Muslims. So what was causing all this Islamic aggression? Please explain, Jinno.
And it didn’t stop there…..
Having failed to conquer the West through the front door of Spain and France, the Muslims tried to take Europe through the back door of the Balkans. The Islamic Ottoman Turks captured the fortress of Gallipoli, in the European part of Turkey, in 1354. From there they moved steadily into the Balkans, finally conquering Constantinople, now Istanbul, in 1453. A defeat of the Hungarians in the mid 1500’s put the Ottomans on what seemed like an inevitable conquest and “Muslimfication” of Europe. However, Polish king Jan Sobieski finally halted the Islamic drive into Christendom at the Gates of Vienna on that OTHER September 11, in 1683. The Muslims’ jihad against the West was finally broken. Soon it would be the Europeans’ turn to conquer the Muslims. What goes around comes around.
So what have you got to say now, Jinno? Your entire Muslim-terrorism-is-caused-by-us-angering-them view, believed by you like a religion, is utterly unsustainable. If you’re willing to face history you have to admit that you are profoundly, dangerously wrong. As I made clear above, none of the “injustices” that today’s Muslims rail against were extant when they were invading the West. No, what all the invasions I just revealed to you have in common is that they were acts of Muslim on non-Muslim violence. And those weren’t the only ones. For the sake of space I didn’t mention the Muslims’ centuries long aggression against the non-Muslim lands to their east, especially India. I’ll let you look that up yourself, Jinno.
And after you do look that up I hope you’ll have the courage and honesty to admit that the problem facing the West and ALL non-Muslim civilizations is not what we DO but what Muslims BELIEVE. The motivation for the invasions I just wrote about came from Islamic doctrine, not from any anti-Islamic acts by the victims. The Koran teaches that Muslims are to fight the “infidels” until they convert or “feel themselves subdued”. That is the essence of jihad. So the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is just a pretext for a war that Muslims would be waging, and have waged, anyway. If Israel vanished tomorrow Muslims would find another affront to their sensibilities that they’d have to avenge. And saps like you would be right there agreeing with them that we’re the problem.
Jinno, I don’t know why there’s so much affinity on the left for embracing our enemies and believing the worst about America. You revealed, though, that this affinity is alive and well. I hope this post will encourage you to subject your belief to some critical thinking, Jinno. But I won’t hold my breath. You are wedded to the Evil America Paradigm and have little to gain from challenging it. You probably couldn’t undersand the world without it. That it’s false means nothing to you. What matters is that it gives you a heady feeling of intellectual and moral superiority over mere mortals who adhere to the unhip view that Islam chose to be at war with us.
Well Jinno, I hope you enjoy that feeling because it’s all you’re going to get from your belief in America the Bad. You may get a few strokes from other left-wing loons but real Americans like me and Robert know your game. And we will fight you every step of the way. The survival of our country is a stake and we’re not about to let some anti-American propagandist go unanswered.
That’s my response to you, Jinno. Any questions?
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