Posted by: elwoodin | December 13, 2008

More on the Bastardizing of Christianity is back….

They are at it again, trying to make Christmas the bad thing. Only this time, it isn’t the Liberals. It is a muslim lawyer who of course the liberal media had to report. Here is the story:


Muslim preacher Anjem Choudary has branded Christmas “evil” in a sermon posted on the internet.

By Murray Wardrop
The Daily Telegraph (London)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3699565/Muslim-lawyer-Anjem-Choudary-brands-Christmas-evil.html

The lawyer, who recently praised the Mumbai terror attacks, urged all Muslims to reject traditional Christmas celebrations, claiming that they are forbidden by Allah.
The 41-year-old shocked Christians and even those of his own faith by branding yuletide festivities as “the pathway to hellfire”.
Choudary, who is chairman of the Society of Muslim Lawyers, ruled out all celebrations, including having a Christmas tree, decorating the house or eating turkey.
In the sermon posted on an Islamic website, he said: “In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in western countries, are exposed to the evil celebration Christmas.
“Many take part in the festival celebrations by having Christmas turkey dinners.
“Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah.
“Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus.
“How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion Allah has an offspring?
“The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
“Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire. Protect your Paradise from being taken away – protect yourself and your family from Christmas.”
Choudary is Principal Lecturer at the London School of Shari’ah and a follower of the Islamist militant leader Omar Bakri Mohammed.,
Earlier this year, he led a meeting at the heart of the area where the liquid bombers lived, which warned of a British September 11.

People, this is where we are letting our country down. Our media will flock all over a story like this, but if there was ever a column or story written telling of the virtues of Christmas or Christianity, you would not see it in the drive by media. You would see it, if you did, on a blog like this one, or on Townhall, or hear of it on Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or something the left does not espouse.

This country was founded on Christian values, not muslim ones, and somewhere somehow sometime, we have to start standing up for the things that we supposedly believe in, and start being assertive again about what this country is and believes. I believe this bastardization of this nation and her beliefes is just another attempt at the destruction of what this country was founded on, as stated in the Constitution and other founding documents. No matter what the liberal media and the politicians try to tell us about it, these documents are very clear in what they say we stand for. Let’s stop letting others make us change what we are, before this nation ceases to exist. And this is not scare mongering, but that day is coming.

God Bless America
God Bless our troops always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR, my viewers on Youtube….

-Robert-

Posted by: elwoodin | December 12, 2008

Scandals Galore for our Future President and yet…….

We are having scandals galore with the state government of the state of Illinois, where our next president hails from, and he is trying to tell us, as he has all along with all of his acquaintances, that he knew nothing! If he didn’t, then he has an appalling lack of common sense needed to run this country.

In a president, we should want someone with a ‘presence of mind’. a ‘knowledge of what goes on around you’, ‘common sense’, a ‘knowledge of what your acquaintances around you are doing’, especially if what they are doing will affect where you want to go. With Barack Obama, we have none of those. With Barack Hussein Obama, we have someone who wants us to believe that the people he has associated with for years, are doing things he has no clue about. Well people, if he has that little knowledge of what his friends are doing, then he has no right to try to run a country that has to have someone, who knows what is going on. Because it is increasingly crystal clear that Mr. Obama does not.

He associated with William Ayers, the known domestic terrorist, who bombed federal buildings and yet helped Obama kick off his campaign from his own living room. Obama said that it didn’t matter what Ayers had done, because the bombings happened when he (Obama) was a kid. To me, that would be a warning to stay away from the guy in the first place. We all know that he didn’t heed that warning.

Jeremiah Wright last sunday

Jeremiah Wright last sunday

He also wants us to believe that the man who was his “mentor” and practically a “member of his own family”, his words, not mine, for twenty years, Jeremiah Wright, was saying things, and believed things about America, that Obama knew nothing about. Well, for some of it, I can probably agree with, but Obama belonged to the church that Reverend Wright was pastor of, for twenty plus years. The man married Barack and Michelle! The man baptized their children! You can’t tell me that Barack Obama didn’t know of Reverend Wrights wrong view of America. I have belonged to many churches in my life, and even when younger, knew of the ideals that my pastor always stood for. Especially if he baptized my children, I would want to know what the man stood for.

Now you may ask why I have to bring up Jeremiah Wright again. I bring him up because the man is back again, and like I predicted some months ago, when He was a big thing in the undriveby media, Jeremiah Wright stuck his foot in it again on Sunday, December 7th, 2008. Doing just what the democrats always do when it comes to America, and that is tear down what we stand for, when he said:


“Today is December 7th, the day that this government killed over 80,000 Japanese civilians at Hiroshima in 1941, two days before killing an additional 64,000 Japanese civilians at Nagasaki by dropping nuclear bombs on innocent people.”

Now, I am not kidding here. He said this. This is a man that Barack Obama said was like family to him, and he couldn’t turn away from, just several short months ago! This quote, was made at the Trinity Church in Chicago this last Sunday when the Reverend Wright took to the podium again. The day of course was Pearl Harbor day. The day that was NOT marked by the Japanese being attacked and having 80,000 civilians killed, but it was in fact the day we were attacked by the Japanese, killing thousands of Americans. The day that the “good” Reverend Wright was talking about was actually over 4 years later, when we dropped the two bombs to help end the war! A war started by the JAPANESE! And on my Sunday show on Blog Talk Radio at 3 pm eastern time, I have the audio of that clip, and in it you will actually hear applause after he said that we killed 80,000 Japanese civilians. Is this nuts? I grew up in an America, where people like this nutcase didn’t get the notoriety of the drive by media, or the television. Men like this didn’t get applause. Men like this were looked upon like the trash that they are and the unAmerican ideals that they stood for, and then they were dismissed as nutcases. But not anymore. Heck, we even elected someone for president, that most people didn’t know thing one about! Now that is nuts personafied. How’s that for sending a country down the tubes? Heaven help us, if we keep heading down this road of self destruction that we are on.


God Bless America
God Bless our troops always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR and my viewers on You tube

-Robert-

Posted by: elwoodin | December 10, 2008

Tom Colburn of Oklahoma telling it like it is…..again.

If you remember a few months ago, I did a show on Blog Talk Radio that ran an account of the last time that Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, spoke out against the liberals and their constant attacks against the United States and what she stands for. Just like Conservatives should be doing.

Well folks, he was at it again today, when he spoke on the Automobile bale outs that the government seems intent on paying for. OF course, he is against it. Here is what he said, and then I will give you my take on what he was saying there:

COBURN: In 2007, GM sold 9.37 million cars worldwide. Toyota, that same year, sold 9.37 million cars worldwide. GM lost 38.7 billion. Toyota made 17.7 billion. Therein lies the problem.

Now, finally, a politician who gets it. And gets it good. General Motors in 2007 sold 9.37 million cars worldwide, and Toyota that same year (2007) sold 9.37 million cars. Now get that figure folks. It is the same number of cars, give or take a few, but here is the bottom line…..General Motors lost 38.7 BILLION dollars! Toyota? They didn’t lose money. They actually made 17.7 billion. And he is right. Therein lies the problem. Why is it, that the two can sell the same number of cars, and the income be so different? I will tell you why. Because of the Unions and the Government and all the stipulations on the Auto makers to make a certain kind of car, they are now going under. Toyota doesn’t have to deal with all of that. All of the regulations, and fuel calculations and blends that the auto makers have to make their cars run with, are hurting them, and they are also hurting the consumer too.

Here is what is going on with this stupid bale out. The government is going to put a stipulation into the bale out that makes the Auto makers manufacture cars that the American public does not want, but, in the future will have to have, because the government is going to make them mandatory. No other cars will be available and the ones that we are driving now, will be outlawed. And it will all be in the name of saving the earth from Global Warming which by the way is being disproved over and over again, every day. But, through the automakers we are being made to pay out the nose for something that isn’t really happening, and the big three automakers here in the U.S. are being made to pay too. And this whole thing isn’t working people.

The American automakers could learn a lot from the way that Toyota is running things. They would again succeed if they did what Toyota is doing. Get rid of the Unions. Get rid of the regulations. Get rid of all the “green” rules that are destroying this country, and it’s businesses. Tom Coburn has it right. Sad that no one in the right places will listen. Because what he is stating, would save the Big three if they would start looking at the bottom line. And we the people need to start speaking out too.

One of the things that the people in Washington, who supposedly are smart, are coming up with for the Automakers is the electric car. But my friends, the electric car is NOT eco friendly. If you go with the talking points of the Liberals and the Global warming crowd you will see that. In order for the electric car to have a charge, it would have to be plugged into an electrical outlet. Where does most of our electrical power come from? COAL! Yes my friends, we burn coal to make our electricity. So if you look at it that way, these new ELECTRIC CARS that the government is pushing so hard to get manufactured, are not as green as they would have you believe. Sure, when they are running, they are non polluting machines, but, when their batteries need charging…..then there is the carbon footprint again. Did you hear that one mr AL GORE?
We have more things coming down the pike that are NOT going to be good for this nation too. Obama wants to raise your taxes….don’t let him think otherwise.

Obama wants to go to the Muslim world when in office and give his first big speech to the Muslims, telling them that we all need to work together.

People, if it was that simple, it would have been done a long time ago. That isn’t the problem in that area. The Muslims *the radical ones anyway* and the Islamic Terrorists *note the word that the media in this country is afraid to use*, do not like us Americans, and it would make them happy if we would just disappear. With desires like that, no amount of talk will help us, because they do not like our way of life and they will not stop fighting us until we either change to their way, or die. That is one point that Obama just does not get. And I do not think he ever will. But we had better get it…..and soon. We are in for a long four years, and our war for our freedoms and rights have just begun. We are going to lose this war if we don’t start fighting for our rights. And for you people who do not understand this thinking, if we lose this war on us, we lose our rights and freedoms too. Simple as that. We need to stand up and let our government know that, under no uncertain terms. And starting with the Automobile makers, this bale out is not the way to go. PERIOD!


God Bless America
God Bless our Troops always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR and my viewers on Youtube…

-Robert-

….and now, he’s going back on all of those so called promises. And yet, NO ONE is calling him on it. It has been said before, and it bears repeating again. If he was a Republican, or a Conservative, *and no they are not the same anymore*, he would be called on it by everyone, from the democrats in office, to the media, to the hollywood know-it-alls. But, since he is a democrat, and a liberal one at that, and because he is their, so-called messiah, nothing is being said, and nothing will be said, at least by them anyways. They, after all have too much vested in getting him elected, that nothing, not even the question of his eligibility to be president, will be brought up by them.

And actually, right now, there is another lawsuit back in the supreme court, on that very subject, and if Obama wants this to go away, he needs to “actually” produce for examination, his birth certificate.

But, here is what I think he is doing. I feel that since he refuses to show it, that he is actually hiding something and/or stalling for time, so he can get a fake one made to qualify him.

But his promises to the American public don’t seem to mean diddly squat either. He promised Change and yet he is bringing in the third term of the Clinton Cabinet, and not bringing in change at all. It’s “more of the same”, as usual.

His tax “cuts” that he supposedly promised, though never actually meaning it, have already been abandoned by the wayside by him, when he said that ‘the middle class would not miss not getting the tax cuts right now.’

His promise to pull out of Iraq within 16 months of his election has also been pushed to the way side, thank God. At least for now.

He promised us better times when elected, yet, now he has backed off, by saying that it’s going to get much worse before it gets better. HUH???

People, we all knew all this before the election, and so did Obama. So, why did he lie to us on all of those so called promises? I can tell you, the answer is simple. They were made to get him elected, and to keep pushing the lie that the Republicans are to blame for all the mess that we are in now. NOTHING MORE! The trouble is, the democrats are to blame for a lot of what we are now going through.

Democrats like Barney Frank who said that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were not in trouble, and no help was needed….Democrats like Nancy Pelosi who doesn’t flinch when she talks down to Americans. Democrats like Harry Reid who thinks that Americans who come to Washington D.C. as tourists, stink. Jack Murtha who thinks our troops are rapists and murderers. John Kerry who thinks the same things about them. And every one of these, plus many more of the Democrats in Washtington, think that our Constitution has to be changed and/or gotten rid of. And people, ignoring what our government is telling us now, that our Constitution is out of touch and out of time, is not the way to go. It is really the document that will keep this nation strong and free, but only if WE THE PEOPLE will stop being content that the government will do right by us, then stand up and protect it from the people in our government, who are doing their best to undermine it. And if you do not think they are trying to change it or destroy it, look at what we have going here:

The Constitution gives each and every one of us the right to lawfully own and bear arms. Yet, our government is actively taking those rights away from us. Why do you think that there has been such a huge run on guns since Obama won the election? It’s because he wants to eliminate the Second Amendment giving us that right. And we are not doing anything to stop this trend!!!

the Constitution gives us the right to worship our God, no matter how we percveive him, or if we don’t wish to worship at all. Yet, Christianity is under attack and being bastardized all across our nation, while taxpayers are now being made to pay for Muslin foot prayer baths in our schools to accommodate our FEW Muslim students, yet, anything that is Christian in nature is banned from the schools. And we are not doing anything to stop this trend!!!

People, I have said this until I am almost blue in the face, yet it seems it needs to be repeated again. A Right is harder to get back, once it is lost than it would be if it was never lost.. And we are allowing our government to steal our rights away from us without even blinking an eye. And this is something that we do not have to allow.

The Constitution starts with the words WE THE PEOPLE for a reason my friends. It is because the government is NOT there to rule over us…..as a lot of the Politicians in Washington D.C. now think, instead, they are there to represent us and America. And, WE THE PEOPLE have the power to make them return to that form of government. And if we do not stand up for our rights soon, we are going to wake up some day wondering just where our freedoms have gone. This isn’t scare-mongering as the liberals love to accuse us of being, and no doubt will, it is the God’s truth.

You want to continue losing your rights and freedoms to an ever growing government, then go ahead, but do not complain when you find out your rights are gone.

As for me, I am mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore! You politicians in Washington are NOT there to rule over me. You are there to represent me and America too. Don’t you think, it’s high time you started doing your job, and doing that? I think it is, and I know I am not even close to being alone in this. Start doing the jobs you were elected for, or WE WILL REPLACE YOU.


God Bless America
God Bless our Troops always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR, and my viewers on Youtube….

-Robert-

Posted by: elwoodin | December 6, 2008

Today was the 67th anniversary of Pearl Harbor.

Today was the 67th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. Today is a Sunday. In 1941 it was also a Sunday. Come back with me for a look back to that day, not so many years ago, that took us from the “day of infamy” to our part in winning the War against Japan. My show, on Blog Talk Radio, is called Wise Conservatism Radio. Come join me.

Posted by: elwoodin | December 5, 2008

Global Warming and the Hoax to get our Money…..

Over the years, the “great global warming swindle” has cost us the tax payers millions of dollars, money that is spent on something that doesn’t exist. Global Warming!

Al Gore has pushed the Global Warming Hoax like it was the God Forsaken truth, which it isn’t. It is just a vehicle for the Global Warming fanatics to fleece the people with new regulations that will not do one thing to fix what they feel is the problem, while only stealing the hard earned cash of the public. You see folks, man made Global Warming doesn’t exist. Sure, the globe warms, but it also cools too.

Global warming and cooling is cyclical and has repeated itself over and over again since the beginning of time. Long before man had any effect on the climate. Now, I am not saying that we shouldn’t take care of the earth, because we should, but to force people to pay millions of dollars for “green” stuff that doesn’t do anything to stop Global Warming is theft at the highest level. And the government condones this.

The latest about Global Warming is a Scientist who is dismayed about it. Here is the story I found earlier about what this scientist has to say:

POZNAN, Poland (AFP) – The head of the world’s top climate scientists says he is stunned at the trillion-dollar checks that have been signed to ease the banking crisis when funding for poverty and global warming is scrutinized or denied.
In an interview on the sidelines of the UN climate talks here, Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Nobel-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), said he was both astonished and dismayed at the imbalance.
“It seems very strange, what has happened in the past two or three months,” he told AFP.
“It defies any kind of logic, if you look at the type of money that the world has spent on these bailouts, 2.7 trillion dollars (2.13 trillion euros) is the estimate, and it’s been done so quickly and without questioning.”
Pachauri recalled that when the Millennium Development Goals for attacking poverty and sickness were being drawn up, a panel chaired by Ernesto Zedillo, the former president of Mexico, suggested “a fairly modest estimate” of 50 billion dollars a year in help for poor countries.
“But everyone scoffed at it. Nobody did a damn thing,” Pachauri said in the interview on Monday.
“(Yet) here, you’ve got agencies, you’ve got organizations that are not only responsible for their own failure but the failure of the entire economic system, and they get checks worth 2.7 trillion dollars. I find this amazing… What can you say, what can you do?”
Pachauri suggested that this two-sided story illustrated a “distortion” in the economic system.
Carbon emissions — the fossil-fuel pollution that stokes climate change — were another example, whereby the true cost of using or abusing natural resources was not factored in to calculations, he said.
“Once the dust settles and we know the direction the world is going to move in, I think there will be a very deep and major reappraisal of the way we’ve been growing economically,” said Pachauri.
“I think we will have a major spring cleaning of the economic system…. I believe that you will get a shift towards much more efficient use of natural resources, much more efficient use of energy, and certainly doing away with a lot of waste.”
The December 1-12 talks in Poznan, taking place under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) are intended to serve as a springboard to an ambitious new treaty to slash emissions of greenhouse gases beyond 2012.

The deal is scheduled to be completed in Copenhagen in December 2009.

Pachauri, who also made a speech to the conference, pointed to the latest scientific evidence on climate change, put forward last year in the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report — a landmark document that helped earn the panel the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize alongside Al Gore.
Only seven years are left, warned Pachauri, for global emissions of greenhouse gases to peak and then start declining, in order to stem warming to around two degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) over pre-industrial levels.
Tackling the problem would cost less than three percent of the world’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 2030, a fleabite when compared to the bill that would come from drought, flood, rising sea levels and storms, he said.
Pachauri added that he was pressing for a meeting with US President-elect Barack Obama to drive home his message.
“If I can get 10 minutes with him, that’s all I’ll need,” he said.

Over the years, he is not the only scientist to debunk the Global Warming theory. And after all, that is all it is. A Theory. The problem with this whole thing is, people like Al Gore continue to spew the untruth of it, even though the earth hasn’t warmed any since the turn of the century, and actually since 1999!

And, it seems that I hear more about how Global Warming is going to kill us if we don’t do something about it, after the Coldest November that anyone here in Indiana can remember! Are we kidding ourselves by letting our pockets be picked clean by these Climate Change vultures who couldn’t tell a climate change from a forest fire if they were trapped in it? And most who fall into this crap about saving the planet from Global Warming want all of us to go without, while they fly around the world in private jets, and have homes that use 100’s of times more carbon fuel than any of us have. Yet we are the ones that have to cut back. Why is that, if they so think that mankind is the evil of this planet? Why don’t they have to cut back? I say the reason is, is because people like Al Gore loves the money he makes from this, and he also knows that we are not doing anything to destroy the atmosphere of this planet. Everything is cyclical, and they know it. But admitting to that will get rid of their little cash cow, so to speak. But, we cannot expect them to admit to being wrong, so I guess, that we will just have to put up with the crap that they constantly hand out to us, and make us pay for. Maybe someday someone will stand up and say “This is enough. We are not stupid, like you think we are. This bull has to stop.” Hey, someone just did. Hope they listen……..but they probably won’t….as usual.


God Bless America
God Bless our Troops…always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR, and my viewers on Youtube…..

-Robert-

Posted by: elwoodin | December 2, 2008

Fred Thompson at His Snarkiest Best

This is taken from a blog from the bloglist called Conservatism Conglomerates…. and the blog is called the Patriot Room. Click on the link below. This is great. Fred Thompson at his best. If he had been this way while running for President, who knows how far he may have gotten.


-Robert-
Fred Thompson at His Snarkiest Best

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Try as I might, I cannot get away from the stupidity and gross negligence of what our government is doing to us. I wanted to talk about the Terrorist attacks in India, on the Jewish community, and our representatives in Washington keep doing things that just have to be addressed. But first, I have to say this.

The attack in Mumbai where a Jewish family was held hostage by a terrorist, and I know that the press called these people who did this militants, but people. Lets’ call it what it was. These were terrorists and nothing else. In the politically correct arena that we have found ourselves increasingly in, it seems it is wrong to call these people what they are. Well, as long as I am here, I will call them what they are…..and that is Terrorists. Plain and simple, and what they did in India was beyond anything we can call civilized, because it wasn’t. It was barbaric. NOTHING MORE, nothing less.

But our government is off and running on another economic stimulous package that could cost as much as 500 billion dollars more on top of what they have already spent over the last few months. Now I have to ask you people. Why is it that no one is speaking out against this crap??? I mean sure, it is nice to get a check from the government, with supposedly no strings attached, but here is what we are missing on this……

…..this is not free. And though we may not ever have to pay for this, someone is going to have to. And if we don’t do it, then it is going to go to our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren and maybe as far into the future as our great great great great grandchildren.

This “easygoing dopey” and stupid ideal that we need to bale out companies all over the place, and then give “economic stimulus checks out” is insane because there is nothing that comes from the government that is free. And these things are not free….by any stretch of the imagination.

We all have been raised, or at least have heard a lot, that nothing in life is free. Well, that is truer than any of us can imagine, and I can’t understand how we all fall for this stuff from the government that them spending trillions of dollars won’t cost us the taxpayers anything. We have to hold them accountable, because they have been spending money like it is a never ending fountain. It isn’t. People, they get their money from us! What ever the government does, it costs us, and that is a fact of life. Welfare costs us in taxes. Tax hikes cost us in taxes. Government programs cost us in taxes. Government anything costs us in taxes. Anything that Obama wants to do during his presidency, except for a true tax cut, will cost us in taxes. Anything that Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid or any of the others in Congress and the Senate wants to do, will cost us money in higher taxes. This is something that we have to start remembering here. NO MATTER what the government does, it is going to cost us in higher taxes. So with this thinking, in your heads now, this government stimulous program that they are now talking about is going to cost us. And it will cost us. It will cost us in higher taxes, it will cost our children higher taxes, it will cost their children higher taxes, and their children and on and on till it is paid. Which won’t be for a long long long long time. And I bring this up because, with Obama we are supposed to have a fresh start, with new people in our government. But Obama is bringing in all the old guard of the democratic party that helped put us here in the first place.

Our government has already all but bankrupted our children before they even have a chance to get their lives started…….and now they want to add more to the till? I say no NO NO NO!!!! This insanity has to stop before we find ourselves so far in debt to our children that their debt will make the national debt seem like one penny. And it is already close to that if not there. This insanity has to stop. Putting future generations into debt is not the way to go. Let the economy naturally go through this cycle. It will come out, just as sometime in the future it will go back down. We need to stop trying to artificially stop the natural process from happening. It is leading to a disaster that will not be easy to get out from under. Of course, these are my thoughts, but they are based on common sense and true thought. Something that we all could do if we put our minds to it.


God Bless America
God Bless our Troops…always
God Bless my readers, my listeners on BTR, and my viewers on You Tube…..

-Robert-

Posted by: elwoodin | November 28, 2008

Late on this one, but I have to comment…..

Wal-Mart, black monday lived up to it’s black name with the death of a Wal-Mart worker who was trampled to death when a throng of eager shoppers broke down the door and ran into the store for the early morning shopping, not caring that the man they were trampling was in the way or hurt, and later to die. I have an opinion on all of this, and a lot of you probably will not like my idea…..especially you who ran into the store. Here is the story:

Wal-Mart worker dies in Black Friday stampede
BY JOSEPH MALLIA and JONATHAN STARKEY |joseph.mallia@newsday.com

12:37 PM EST, November 28, 2008

Crowd at door moments before the stampede happened.

Crowd at door moments before the stampede happened.


A 34-year-old Wal-Mart worker died Friday morning after “a throng of shoppers . . . physically broke down the doors” and knocked him to the ground as the crowd pushed its way into the store at a Valley Stream mall, Nassau police said.
One police officer told Newsday the prelude to the death at the Green Acres Mall was “a mob scene.” The man who died was a temporary, part-time Wal-Mart worker, the officer said.
Shoppers who surged into the store were asked to leave by Wal-Mart workers, some of them crying and visibly upset, said one shopper, Kimberly Cribbs, of Far Rockaway.
Though rumors circulated among the shoppers that someone had been badly injured, people ignored the Wal-Mart workers’ requests that they stop shopping, move to the front of the store and exit, Cribbs said.
“They kept shopping. It’s not right. They’re savages,” said Cribbs.
She said she entered the store after the worker was already being attended to by emergency personnel. As people waited, then pushed into the store, she said, “It was chaos.”
Another shopper said people were screaming and shoving in line before the opening.
The worker was knocked down at 5:03 a.m. at the store, and was taken to Franklin Hospital in Valley Stream, where he was pronounced dead at 6:03 a.m.
As of Friday morning the cause of death was described as “undetermined”, police said. An exact cause of death will be determined by the county medical examiner’s office, police said. The man’s name was not immediately made public by the police, and the store was closed.
Asked at a news conference whether the store had enough security given the crowds that Black Friday shopping typically attracts, Det. Lt. Michael Fleming, who is investigating the death, said no.
“This crowd was out of control,” Fleming said, characterizing the melee as “utter chaos.”
Fleming said an estimated 2,000 people had gathered in line around 5 a.m. as the store was preparing to open.
People in the rear of the line began pushing, cascading the people in the front into the doors, which were knocked off their hinges, Fleming said.
Hundreds of shoppers who then streamed in literally stepped on the worker who later died, Fleming said.
Fleming said the worker, who has not been publicly identified, was a temporary worker sent by an employment agency.
Fleming said criminal charges were possible in the case, though he said it would be near impossible to identify individual shoppers.
But, he said, authorities were reviewing surveillance video.
Shopper Camla Brown described a disorganized mob that was thirsting to get into the store before the trampling.
“There was no organization,” said Brown, a 47-year-old restaurant manager from Valley Stream.
Four other Wal-Mart shoppers at the Valley Stream store were taken to hospitals Friday morning. A 28-year-old pregnant woman was taken to a hospital for observation, and three other shoppers suffered minor injuries and were taken to hospitals for treatment, and they were expected to be released.
Dan Fogelman, spokesman at Wal-Mart corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Ark., said Friday, “The safety and security of our customers and associates are our top priority.”
Fogelman called the death “a tragic situation” and said the company was cooperating fully with the Nassau County police investigation. He declined to comment on whether the company would review its practice of heavily-discounted holiday sales events, or whether the company was reviewing its crowd control measures at such sales.
He said company management were saddened by the death of the worker and the injuries to customers, adding, “Our thoughts and prayers are with them at this difficult time.”

The Nassau Police Fifth Squad is investigating.

Emi Endo and Matthew Chayes and Andrew Strickler contributed to this story.

Now these “savages”, who ran into the store just to be first to get to the savings of “black friday” the first shopping day after Thanksgiving and of the Christmas shopping season should be arrested for murder. I know there were a lot of people, but for crying out loud, unless you are born and raised in a bubble, you know the difference between right and wrong, and this was wrong from the start, and wrong in the middle and wrong at the end.

When store officials tried to close the store because of the workers death, the shoppers *and this is not what I would call these heathens* continued to shop not caring that they had just caused a man to die because of their actions. This is one of the reasons that I have constantly harped against the Politically Correct crowd because they are wrong in most everything they try to do. They are wrong when they say there are not bad people, just victims. Here, the bad people were not someone you would think was bad, but they were bad because they knew right from wrong, and went ahead and did the wrong anyway just to get in the first shopping of the season.

The police say they are looking at the video now, and charges may be filed. MAY BE FILED??? I say charges SHOULD BE FILED.

With the video the police can identify most all of the people if the time is taken to do so, and then they can go to each one’s door and serve them a warrant for jail…..and a murder trial. But will this happen? Most likely not. The victim card will probably be played again, and the victims family, the true victims of this senseless crime and murder, will be the ones to lose.

This is one of the areas that the liberals are leading this country wrong. And why, right now I am so afraid for the future of this country. Arrests should be made, many of them, and then people not only sued for the damage to the doors when they rushed in, but charged with the murder of this 34 year old man, who probably had a lot of living left to do, and his life was cut short by the murderous rampage of a mob of people who cared for nothing, except saving on the almighty dollar on the first day of the Christmas shopping season…….

…………..a season that by the way is because of Jesus Christ our Lord….who I am sure is NOT PLEASED!!!!


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Posted by: elwoodin | November 27, 2008

Hope you had a very happy Thanksgiving…..

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Everyone here, mostly only me, at Wise Conservatism and also at Wise Conservatism Radio on blog talk radio, wish each and every one of my readers and listeners a very happy, safe and blessed Thanksgiving. God Bless you all.

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